Researcher: And then "wife has a new baby", say that's, the woman comes home, and this baby is not old, it's just a very new baby, like you know, new born baby.
Researcher: A newborn baby. Not, not a baby three weeks old, but just born, say a day or two old. A new baby.
Researcher: Would you say, like, you know, just out of hospital, a wife brings the baby home, so new baby, very new because, just something new, not old. Not born some time.