Researcher: The barb. Now. The b-. You see, when you got the point of the spear, you got the spear like this. Now, they put things like that to make it, you know, so that you can't pull it out. See the. You know, the spear goes in and then the bit sticking out the side, this is the barb. The barb there. You know, ah. It's the... It's just, you can have a plain point, like that, or you can have a point which has got bits of steel sticking, like... Barb. Barb.
Researcher: Don't know. Oh. No. No word.
Participant: No word.